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Yeti, I actually do agree that the climate is changing, but I utterly oppose fake political "solutions" that are merely methods of stealing middle-class wealth and expanding government power. The earth is changing, it always has been and always will be. The notion that we need to somehow freeze the state of the system where it currently is (or regress) is utter hubris. This planet was meant to be abundant in life and more CO2 and additional warming distributed around the globe will facilitate that. I also agree that humans do affect the environment; I am not for polluting the planet. At the same time, natural human activity is going to create CO2, because it is a necessary component to life. To connect this with some of the points I raised with Deanima, the idea that additional CO2 coming into the atmosphere will somehow cause runaway warming is demonstrably false (see: CO2 absorption spectrum saturation) and the arguments for it are based on incorrect modeling and outright falsehoods. Rather, we need MORE CO2 to support abundant life in all forms. In closing, we are not the masters of this planet, but we are its stewards. We ought to recognize the limits of our control over the total system and, like you say, not sacrifice civilization to politically empower a few. Sidenote: the government (in current form) should not be providing people with basic necessities, we should be doing it for ourselves (democratic government is crypto-oligarchy).

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